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Help with RFI in the shack
wdc
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 Help with RFI in the shack
Hi Guys i'm after a bit of help. My setup consists of a Carolina windom 80 special it runs diagionally from the chimney pot of the house down to the corner of the garden to a post at about 7feet off the ground.The coax then runs back to the house . the long end it highest (hot end I think) . Reason for the slope is that my 6 element 10m beam is in the path but by sloping the wire it rins underneath the beam when the beam is down in its park position. I know the windom is a bit of a compromise antenna . Hear is my problem: when on 10m I get RFI in the shack and can see it by the touch lamp going crackers. When on 40m all is fine - seems like the antenna better suits 40m . I have the radio works 80special with the balon and choke . Also I have a line insulator out the back of the rig and one leaving the linear . The RFI on 10m is there from 10w upwards. could I attach stubs to my coax for 10m and if so has anyone done anything like this to rid RFI . or maybe another choke or is the multiples on the antenna just not make any difference. or is it just too many lobes on 10m ?
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:56 pm |
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G4LNA
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 Re: Help with RFI in the shack
Yes, get rid of the touch lamp. They are a pain in the rump, you won't stop them picking up RF because they are doing what they are designed to do. We had one in the bedroom and the XYL wasn't too pleased being woken up with an Aldis lamp in the room. It got taken down the local tip.
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:12 pm |
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Help with RFI in the shack
G7VAE
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We have one of those touch lamps as well. I can switch it on with a 100w on 40m or 80m. It was in my daughters bedroom, but it was freaking her out!  . It's now in our bedroom, The missus doesn't seem to care/notice!
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:27 pm |
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Help with RFI in the shack
G7VQE
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 Re: Help with RFI in the shack
We had one from Matalan, a swish brushed stainless thing and it pretty well wiped out most of HF when turned on... her indrawers wasn't happy when it packed up a short time later and actually turned a bit nasty when it turned out the failure was due to the plug top fuse being absent.  Cheers, Dave.
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:33 pm |
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Help with RFI in the shack
wdc
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Hehehehe , The touch lamp I was given by my next door neighbour .
They would awake in the middle of the night and wander what was going on . They replaced the lamp twice. later another night they got spooked, so not being able to sleep went out into their garden to get some air only to hear what they called the talking shed talking . Thats why I have the lamp now , I replaced it for them.
But My RFI elimination has improved 10 fold since then . I can run the legal limit on 40m without it going off. BUT 10m even on 10w it goes off. The lamp is crap but , I have RF in my audio when i am running my rack on 10m so use a handmike there no Rf in my audio on 40 though .
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:39 pm |
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Help with RFI in the shack
G4LNA
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Ah, Dave, that's where you failed. You should have put a duff fuse in and when super-ham cames to the rescue you could have said, "oh my, it must be faulty, we will have to dispose of it" 
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Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:43 pm |
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M0PCZ
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Sorry, what antenna are you getting RF issues with on 10m, the windom or the beam ? Are you using a choke ?
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:21 pm |
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Help with RFI in the shack
wdc
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Paul , Thanks for asking, Have just put another choke out in the garden a quarter wave back from the windoms choke , it has sorted it . The crappy touch lamp doesn't switch on anymore so that was a good indication. I went on an ARRL site that explained about the currents on a feed line on different bands and where exactly to place the choke. Spent a good few hours reading there and its helped no end . I am supprised that there are not many tech minded hams about on this forum , must be polishing their black boxes. Cheers 
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:00 pm |
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G4LNA
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wdc wrote: Paul , I am supprised that there are not many tech minded hams about on this forum , must be polishing their black boxes. Cheers  Nice put down, would you like to have a go at building a complete home brew station? This was my station up until a couple of years ago. 
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:58 pm |
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wdc wrote: Paul , Thanks for asking, Have just put another choke out in the garden a quarter wave back from the windoms choke , it has sorted it . The crappy touch lamp doesn't switch on anymore so that was a good indication. I went on an ARRL site that explained about the currents on a feed line on different bands and where exactly to place the choke. Spent a good few hours reading there and its helped no end . I am supprised that there are not many tech minded hams about on this forum , must be polishing their black boxes. Cheers  Just not interested in HF. Cheers Tony
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ei9ju
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wdc wrote: Paul , Thanks for asking, Have just put another choke out in the garden a quarter wave back from the windoms choke , it has sorted it . The crappy touch lamp doesn't switch on anymore so that was a good indication. I went on an ARRL site that explained about the currents on a feed line on different bands and where exactly to place the choke. Spent a good few hours reading there and its helped no end . I am supprised that there are not many tech minded hams about on this forum , must be polishing their black boxes. Cheers  I would've thought a proper choke fitted at the appropriate place would've sufficed, it did on my Windom. What were/are you using for the original choke?
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:47 pm |
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G1HBE
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Touch lamps are a menace anyway and the problem has come up in Radcom in the past. The holday cottage where we sometimes go has a pair of them in the bedroom and they wipe out Mediumwave and the lower HF bands.
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m0xyz
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Give it to me I can send the wife to bed early and tell her to watch the lamp and learn morse code. All the best.
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Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:49 pm |
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wdc wrote: Hehehehe , The touch lamp I was given by my next door neighbour .
They would awake in the middle of the night and wander what was going on . They replaced the lamp twice. later another night they got spooked, so not being able to sleep went out into their garden to get some air only to hear what they called the talking shed talking . Thats why I have the lamp now , I replaced it for them.
But My RFI elimination has improved 10 fold since then . I can run the legal limit on 40m without it going off. BUT 10m even on 10w it goes off. The lamp is crap but , I have RF in my audio when i am running my rack on 10m so use a handmike there no Rf in my audio on 40 though . I love the gag about the talking shed. It's funny have most people haven't got a clue what amateur radio is about. Well hope you got it sorted Zoli. Cheers Rob.
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