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Looking for some advice here my garden is 40m in length and 6 m wide as in some posts on 160m forums they say any rx antenna is better than none therefore I have 2 options firstly to try a EWE shaped antenna with both vertical section at 15 ft and 38ft horizontal aiming it west towards USA or secondly but not sure if it will work a 135ft beverage down the length of the garden.I know this isnt long but any feedback would be appreciated.


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A third option would be a Wellbrook Loop, for RX. They are outstanding at LF and HF for RX. 1m diameter and simply unreal once heard. Ill never part with mine, in fact Ive just bought a second one :) Using the wire to TX on and the loop to RX on, I hear signals on the loop that are simply not audible on a wire such is the noise level.

http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/antennashop ... duct_id=60

Im still looking for a link I had where it showed the audio and RX signal compared to a wire. Once I find it Ill post a link here

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Terry, have you used the ALA 100, the outdoor type with the larger wire diameter, I've found YouTube videos of the wire loops turning in the air but none showing the nulls, wouldn't you have thought a video showing how it performed would've been better. :rolleyes:
I've been hankering for the larger wire version a while now.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV7tjqAJBqk

Here is a demo by Pete 2e0BTX, its not the one Im looking for but it will give you an idea.

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Terry, have you used the ALA 100, the outdoor type with the larger wire diameter, I've found YouTube videos of the wire loops turning in the air but none showing the nulls, wouldn't you have thought a video showing how it performed would've been better. :rolleyes:
I've been hankering for the larger wire version a while now.



No I havent Gerry, I dont have the space. I use my loop on a small rotator so I can null out strong signals too. Its better on RX than my wire on all bands below 15m Above that its on a par with the Cobwebb, but with the advantage of null and rotation. For utility and SWL there is nothing to touch it in my opinion.

It took me a long time to actually part with £200 for a loop on ally and a pre amp. But once Id heard one, I had to get one. Outstanding antenna.

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I don't think it will work as a Beverage, it's just too short. That antenna at that height on 160 Mtrs will be a cloud warmer without any directivity at all, apart from straight up. If I was just using it as a receive antenna then I think I would just put as much wire up as I could and use that.

Not forgetting to put a counterpoise out and use an isolated matching unit so that the antenna isn't going to use the house wiring as part of the antenna, which will contribute noise. Something like this:
http://www.ok1rr.com/index.php/antennas ... dp-antenna

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When I worked Topband I think it was Tony G4ZCG used the EWE to good effect.

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G0UAZ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV7tjqAJBqk

Here is a demo by Pete 2e0BTX, its not the one Im looking for but it will give you an idea.


Wouldn't mind having one of those loops now to try that V84 on 7.085, frigging S8 here of static!

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i have one for sale, but its pick up only, or send your own Currier, once you use a loop for receiving you wont want to go back to bits of wire etc,

brilliant for top band to 10 mtrs,

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jock51 wrote:
i have one for sale, but its pick up only, or send your own Currier, once you use a loop for receiving you wont want to go back to bits of wire etc,

brilliant for top band to 10 mtrs,


Is your's not the version using a small solid diameter loop whereas the one I'm considering uses a larger diameter circumference made from wire?

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yes your right, i thought someone mentioned the wellbrook,
i had to get a plug in though, in case you wanted one of these, :good:

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Hi all,iv got a wellbrook ala 100m great antenna if you have a noise problem mines the one where you use up to a 10m piece of wire for the loop,don't have a problem with noise now and put my ewe antenna back up.


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thanks all for the replies much appreciated will look into the Wellbrook and EWE antenna and give them a try


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I also have the ala 1530L and its the best antenna I have had in 30years outstanding the best £200 i've spent I was going to pack in the hobby WITH ALL THE noise here but after getting the loop ive changed my mind .




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If your just going to receive why not do as we do with our hf receiver just run as much wire as possible down and around garden you don't need any think fancy just to receive on hf and wire is cheap aerial , aerial cost a fortune


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