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Worked EA1 and F6 all S9 with a tiny 7el here.

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The tropo shows up on Hepburn but here is nothing here.
I suspect that the boundary between the high and low pressure areas is in that region.
You'll be sending me another update. :)
Have fun. :D

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Got on a bit late but worked Wiltshire from Ruislip 5-7 so pretty cool and just now worked Bogota on 20m also heard 1 MM3 and 1 M6 cornwall got Q5 an Zero S reading from Colombia but he was 8000ft ASL great dx for 130am
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2E0SFX wrote:
Got on a bit late but worked Wiltshire from Ruislip 5-7 so pretty cool and just now worked Bogota on 20m also heard 1 MM3 and 1 M6 cornwall got Q5 an Zero S reading from Colombia but he was 8000ft ASL great dx for 130am
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As Wiltshire is only about 90 miles from you, I assume that was 2M FM?
Zero S reading would imply that there was no signal.
In that case you wouldn't be heard. :lol:
The meters on most radios are meaningless so assessing the strength on a signal to noise basis tends to be more meaningful.

Nothing too out of the ordinary here.
PI7CIS - 500km - beacon is up a little and 2E0NEY - 190km - was a good 59, a bit above normal, when we had a chat earlier.
Hopefully things will pick up later.
Rare for me to bother with HF here.

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gw8asd wrote:
2E0SFX wrote:
Zero S reading would imply that there was no signal.
In that case you wouldn't be heard. :lol:
The meters on most radios are meaningless so assessing the strength on a signal to noise basis tends to be more meaningful.
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It just means their signal isn't strong enough to register on the rigs meter, one could guess backwards I suppose that they'd be registering 0.3 if the meter was sensitive enough to show it. I feel bad enough giving Zero reports without going to those extremes. :)

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ei9ju wrote:
gw8asd wrote:
2E0SFX wrote:
Zero S reading would imply that there was no signal.
In that case you wouldn't be heard. :lol:
The meters on most radios are meaningless so assessing the strength on a signal to noise basis tends to be more meaningful.
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It just means their signal isn't strong enough to register on the rigs meter, one could guess backwards I suppose that they'd be registering 0.3 if the meter was sensitive enough to show it. I feel bad enough giving Zero reports without going to those extremes. :)

What ever it is it can't be zero. :D
No signal, no information can be passed. :lol:
51 is rare enough, in reality, as anything that weak is likely to be disrupted at some point and become 41.

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Thats why I explain that "you're not showing on the meter BUT you're readability is 5".

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Thats why I explain that "you're not showing on the meter BUT you're readability is 5".

The problem is that the majority of radios do not have calibrated S meters.
There is a standard and I have thought of re-calibrating mine but, in the end, it's too much trouble with too many variables relating to pre amps, transverter gain etc.
To that end I use the "educated guess" method which is related to the perceived signal to noise. :lol:
I work on the basis that a report has to be a whole number so, if a QSO happened, the signal strength must be, at least, S1 as S0 would indicate nothing heard.

There's plenty, on the web, to indicate how poor the calibration of amateur equipment is.

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gw8asd wrote:
2e1hje wrote:
Thats why I explain that "you're not showing on the meter BUT you're readability is 5".

The problem is that the majority of radios do not have calibrated S meters.
There is a standard and I have thought of re-calibrating mine but, in the end, it's too much trouble with too many variables relating to pre amps, transverter gain etc.
To that end I use the "educated guess" method which is related to the perceived signal to noise. :lol:
I work on the basis that a report has to be a whole number so, if a QSO happened, the signal strength must be, at least, S1 as S0 would indicate nothing heard.

There's plenty, on the web, to indicate how poor the calibration of amateur equipment is.

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If you carried that through to age, a child having just popped out of the womb would have to wait until their 1st birthday before registering on your scale :D

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If you carried that through to age, a child having just popped out of the womb would have to wait until their 1st birthday before registering on your scale :D[/quote]

LOL.. he said "Quote" of the mm3/m6 I have no movement on meter of my ft1000 but you are Q5 so i would derive that he hadnt had his PRE (amp) on and was able through filtering etc of been able to listen to a quality signal and conversation, please remember that this is a pair of hams on 10 watts one in Scotland one in Cornwall holding a breif talk with some one who is in Bogota, 8000 feet above MSL no electric noise etc

hi had a 5-3 QSB 5.

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If you carried that through to age, a child having just popped out of the womb would have to wait until their 1st birthday before registering on your scale :D

Now you're just being the devils advocate. :lol:
I did say signal strengths were always given in whole number.
I bet you've never given a report of 5 by 0.5. :lol:

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The S stands for "Strength". Strength is an assessment of how powerful the received signal is at the receiving location. Although an accurate signal strength meter can determine a quantitative value for signal strength, in practice this portion of the RST code is a qualitative assessment, often made based on the S meter of the radio receiver at the location of signal reception. "Strength" is measured on a scale of 1 to 9.[3]

1 Faint signal, barely perceptible
2 Very weak
3 Weak
4 Fair
5 Fairly good
6 Good
7 Moderately strong
8 Strong
9 Very strong signals

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you are not going to derive any information from it.

The baby is 9 months old when it pops out. :lol:

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