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Author:  G6CSL [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:42 pm ]
Post subject:  IARU Vienna - Preservation of Exclusive CW Segments

A recent post in 'General' produced an anti-RSGB backlash, but no discussion of the agenda.

Here's the bit of interest to Morsers.

https://vienna.iaru-r1.org/wp-content/u ... gments.pdf

Not sure what to make of it ... you can read it two ways. Wotcha think?

Author:  GW4MBS [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IARU Vienna - Preservation of Exclusive CW Segments

I'm not sure whether this is a move to promote the growth of digi modes by laying open wide spaces for it to spread into or an acceptance that it is gaining momentum & others will have to clear off from areas that they have previously occupied. The best I suppose to hope for is that the annexation of CW allocations for this new spreading mode is shared equally with the loss of bandwidth used by other modes.

That'll probably upset someone, so I'll go back to reading all about Fallopia Japonica :D

Author:  G6CSL [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IARU Vienna - Preservation of Exclusive CW Segments

Some digimodes (like PSK31, Hellscreiber) are quite benign, and could 'blend in' with Morse if need be. But the Operators have no excuse for stamping on existing Morse QSOs, because we are clearly visible as a dotted line on their waterfalls. Of course the opposite applies too, because we all have ears.

Given the boom in digimodes; I am 'reluctantly happy' if the Morse sections are squeezed a little, as long as some of the SSB slots are used as well.

On normal days, the Morse segments are more than wide enough; I'm also aware that it will not be a Digimoder that makes me switch off, but a Contest Pig. As almost all 'Contest Morse' is computer-generated (and read) nowadays, shouldn't it be kicked up into the Digimodes segment where it belongs?

Author:  Sangoma [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IARU Vienna - Preservation of Exclusive CW Segments

I think the point in question is the QRP operating.

That is more likely to be affected by SSB stations further away than an FT8 signal, as QRP stations often do not have narrow front ends. Again, going from the statements made ip the opening part.

I think the CW only portions must be protected, and the SSB stations that often operate near them, be prevented from doing so. Digital modes could be acting as a buffer, normally being narrower and cleaner than SSB stations.

Author:  G6CSL [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IARU Vienna - Preservation of Exclusive CW Segments

Sangoma wrote:
I think the point in question is the QRP operating.

That is more likely to be affected by SSB stations further away than an FT8 signal, as QRP stations often do not have narrow front ends. Again, going from the statements made ip the opening part.

I think the CW only portions must be protected, and the SSB stations that often operate near them, be prevented from doing so. Digital modes could be acting as a buffer, normally being narrower and cleaner than SSB stations.


Agreed.
Protected ... even if they are reduced.
I'm quite happy for PSK and even FT8 to come down a bit, because they have the same 'good manners' about band use.
On non-contest days, some of the CW sections start to look a bit extravagant on an SDR waterfall.

Author:  Sangoma [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IARU Vienna - Preservation of Exclusive CW Segments

[quote="G6CSL"
On non-contest days, some of the CW sections start to look a bit extravagant on an SDR waterfall.[/quote]


Yes, but keep it that way, it could be seen as a major attraction to get on CW :)

Author:  G6CSL [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IARU Vienna - Preservation of Exclusive CW Segments

Sangoma wrote:
G6CSL"
On non-contest days, some of the CW sections start to look a bit extravagant on an SDR waterfall.



[quote="Sangoma wrote:
Yes, but keep it that way, it could be seen as a major attraction to get on CW :)


In an ideal world ...
But I'd settle for 20kHz of contest-free QRP(ish) and 'QSO space' on each band. Then everybody's happy. :)

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