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Author:  G0UWK [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

Amazing how 3w can cause so much qrm!
Action this morning during the practical wireless 2m contest and almost 80khz wide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfDRuFQ ... e=youtu.be

The QRM can clearly be seen and heard 35khz down from G0WRS/P who is the same signal strength but clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6n-R_S ... e=youtu.be

Author:  M0HJO [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

Im giving away points for fun from IO70pp.

Oh, that signal is WIDE!!

Author:  ei9ju [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

G0UWK wrote:
Amazing how 3w can cause so much qrm!
Action this morning during the practical wireless 2m contest and almost 80khz wide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfDRuFQ ... e=youtu.be

The QRM can clearly be seen and heard 35khz down from G0WRS/P who is the same signal strength but clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6n-R_S ... e=youtu.be


Whoa that's awful, has anyone told him?....might switch on myself as even my poor location might well pick up a signal that wide!

Author:  G0BHD [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

G0UWK wrote:
Amazing how 3w can cause so much qrm!
Action this morning during the practical wireless 2m contest and almost 80khz wide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfDRuFQ ... e=youtu.be

The QRM can clearly be seen and heard 35khz down from G0WRS/P who is the same signal strength but clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6n-R_S ... e=youtu.be

Blimey what radio is he using?
I've got an old Liner 2 here that isnt that bad! :lol:
That signal is awful for 3 watts! Something SERIOUSLY amiss somewhere, either a technical issue, or a "stretching" of the truth! :D

Author:  M0VXX [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

That is wide, I could not really use the top half of the band looking north for a while with the splatter from A few.


I wonder if you have a video of my signal? Ive never had any complaints.

Managed to work GM8EXI/P IO66 square on 3w, very hard work though


Tristan

Author:  gw8asd [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

I've often said that abused, low power, equipment is more of a problem than legal limit, used by someone who knows what they're doing.

Despite what the "why do you need a linear?" brigade might say.

Cheers

Tony

Author:  GD1MIP [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

ei9ju wrote:
Whoa that's awful, has anyone told him?....might switch on myself as even my poor location might well pick up a signal that wide!


I have sent a heads up email to his QRZ page advertised email address. He currently tops the declared scores on the backpackers contest with 3 watts to a 7 ele ZL antenna.

http://www.rsgbcc.org/cgi-bin/claim.pl? ... &year=2013

Author:  G0BHD [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

Perhaps his unusually wide 3 watt transmissions are a deliberate "ploy" to attract as much attention as possible to his whereabouts during the contest, increases total score, if only because everyone calls in to say "Jeez thats a wide signal"! ;)

Author:  GD1MIP [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

I don't know the fella. But I did experience it on my FT221R. The clip seems to speak for itself, at least in my understanding.

So I decided to give the operator the chance to view the clip and do what ever may be needed.

Author:  M0HJO [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

Well I wonder what the contest committee have to say about it!

Author:  m0hkb [ Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

Wow that is inexcusably wide... and 3w as well, would hate to see what a 100w signal from him would look like!

Author:  GD1MIP [ Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

GD1MIP wrote:
I don't know the fella. But I did experience it on my FT221R. The clip seems to speak for itself, at least in my understanding.

So I decided to give the operator the chance to view the clip and do what ever may be needed.

I never did receive a reply from the OP in the above clip, I have no way of knowing if the OP read / received it but it was sent to the email address listed on their QRZ page and contest entry.

I also copied the email and clip to both the RSGB and PW contest adjudicators. I was asked by the adjudicator of one contest what had I done about it during the contest. My honest answer was nothing because my only evidence during the contest was me. The clip on YouTube appeared afterwards and confirmed my experience. I see the results for the RSGB contest are now out and one particular station did well :scratch: http://www.rsgbcc.org/cgi-bin/vhfresult ... &year=2013

Who knows what will come of it. But basically the adjudicators seem to be ignoring the clip and want on air action during the contest only.

Frankly I don't fancy the bun fight that could cause.

Author:  M0HJO [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

So to be in the running, just take up most of the band :banghead:

What's the point of the contest and rules, if the contest adjudicators don't give a dam :rolleyes:

Old boys club.............................

Author:  GD1MIP [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

I feel very negative about this too. However the adjudicator attitude seems to be complain during not after the contest. The op should be made aware though. I have tried I hope others have too.

Author:  gw8asd [ Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget the quality feel the W I D T H PW 2m contest

M0HJO wrote:
So to be in the running, just take up most of the band :banghead:

What's the point of the contest and rules, if the contest adjudicators don't give a dam :rolleyes:

Old boys club.............................

I agree with the comment about adjudication, I'm sure it will be brought up during the contest discussions at the the Convention.
It's, usually, a lively exchange. :D

I'm not sure where the "Old boys club" comment fits in? :scratch:

Cheers

Tony

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