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 October 432 and up contest 
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Just when you thought conditions couldn't get any worse on 432......

And another thing..there are some seriously deaf stations out there

Come to think of it maybe this should be in the bitching room ! :D


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Just when you thought conditions couldn't get any worse on 432......

And another thing..there are some seriously deaf stations out there

Come to think of it maybe this should be in the bitching room ! :D

As 432 and up is not really that overly populated these days, even on contest days!
Define "some seriously deaf stations" out there?
I am sure anyone interested hearing a call during said contest, would respond to it?


If they don't maybe genuinely for whatever reason they didn't actually hear your call?
As it would not be in their interests to simply ignore you!

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Define "some seriously deaf stations" out there?


How about OT5A/P peaking S5 on the meter and cant hear me? I'm running 400 Watts and 40 elements at 60ft and he knows I'm there because we arranged to meet up on KST chat,hes in JO20SS

Thats my definition of deaf :)

Compare that with OR6T who is in JO20KV,same strength and comes back first time without a prearranged sked on KST chat.

I know which one needs to do a system check..


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Define "some seriously deaf stations" out there?


How about OT5A/P peaking S5 on the meter and cant hear me? I'm running 400 Watts and 40 elements at 60ft and he knows I'm there because we arranged to meet up on KST chat,hes in JO20SS

Thats my definition of deaf :)

Compare that with OR6T who is in JO20KV,same strength and comes back first time without a prearranged sked on KST chat.

I know which one needs to do a system check..

No sorry, that's the definition of...... despite the best efforts your end, he simply did not hear you!
For whatever quirks of the ether reasons!
If he had why on earth would he chose to "deaf you"?
Can his RX seriously be that degraded to your own, even if it was on a stock radio with no pre amps etc?
Bottom line he didn't hear you.
And OR6T gets your browny points! :rolleyes:

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He is not choosing not to hear me Dave he simply couldn't.

At that strength I would have expected him to,its nothing to do with quirks of the aether but I suspect, more to do with losses his end.

Anyway Ive had a little moan and now I feel much better ;)


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I didn't get on for this, was far too busy, but I've noticed there's a tendency for more "deaf" stations on both 2M and 70cm.
I'm not sure if it's down to some of the later shack in a boxes, noise levels, poorly maintained equipment, lack of masthead preamps or feeder problems.
Possibly some sort of combination.
It's pretty noisy here, on 2M, so I find it strange that I can often hear a 10W station perfectly well but they continue to call CQ apparently not hearing my 100W. :scratch:

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I didn't get on for this, was far too busy, but I've noticed there's a tendency for more "deaf" stations on both 2M and 70cm.
I'm not sure if it's down to some of the later shack in a boxes, noise levels, poorly maintained equipment, lack of masthead preamps or feeder problems.
Possibly some sort of combination.
It's pretty noisy here, on 2M, so I find it strange that I can often hear a 10W station perfectly well but they continue to call CQ apparently not hearing my 100W. :scratch:

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Hardly suprising when you get suggestions to use RG8 on 23 cms, unfortunatly far too much miss information concerning VHF and above disseminated at entry level these days.

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gw8asd wrote:
I didn't get on for this, was far too busy, but I've noticed there's a tendency for more "deaf" stations on both 2M and 70cm.
I'm not sure if it's down to some of the later shack in a boxes, noise levels, poorly maintained equipment, lack of masthead preamps or feeder problems.
Possibly some sort of combination.
It's pretty noisy here, on 2M, so I find it strange that I can often hear a 10W station perfectly well but they continue to call CQ apparently not hearing my 100W. :scratch:

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Tony

Hardly suprising when you get suggestions to use RG8 on 23 cms, unfortunatly far too much miss information concerning VHF and above disseminated at entry level these days.

That's when there's any information at all!
Strange how some struggle to get contacts yet others, in far worse locations, seem to have no problem.
So many people just don't treat the higher bands seriously.

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G0JUR wrote:
gw8asd wrote:
I didn't get on for this, was far too busy, but I've noticed there's a tendency for more "deaf" stations on both 2M and 70cm.
I'm not sure if it's down to some of the later shack in a boxes, noise levels, poorly maintained equipment, lack of masthead preamps or feeder problems.
Possibly some sort of combination.
It's pretty noisy here, on 2M, so I find it strange that I can often hear a 10W station perfectly well but they continue to call CQ apparently not hearing my 100W. :scratch:

Cheers

Tony

Hardly suprising when you get suggestions to use RG8 on 23 cms, unfortunatly far too much miss information concerning VHF and above disseminated at entry level these days.

That's when there's any information at all!
Strange how some struggle to get contacts yet others, in far worse locations, seem to have no problem.
So many people just don't treat the higher bands seriously.

Cheers

Tony

Take heart, if the RSGB get their latest new entry level proposal through, you will have a raft of new bodies on the VHF/UHF new "fourth tier" licensed bands, that you can no doubt "mentor" onto far better things! :)
The bands will be packed out with slavering for how to, "get the best out of it", clientele! :lol:
I don't think it's about treating the higher bands "seriously", it's about most have very little interest in them, for whatever reasons full stop!
Those that are truly interested, do tend to put some effort in.
In fairness Tony you often state you have no real interest in HF, other than a very occasional dabble, a lot of folks have no real interest in VHF and up, other than the odd dabble.
They take your bands, as seriously as you take theirs! ;)

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Take heart, if the RSGB get their latest new entry level proposal through


As its not an RSGB proposal I wont worry too much.


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As its not an RSGB proposal I wont worry too much.


Even if it was I doubt they would ever hit SSB.

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Hardly suprising when you get suggestions to use RG8 on 23 cms, unfortunatly far too much miss information concerning VHF and above disseminated at entry level these days.



Why don't you mention the question that that was an answer to?
And include the whole answer.

Of course you wouldn't want to tell the whole story would you, it would spoil your comment. :rotfl: :rotfl:

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G0JUR wrote:
Hardly suprising when you get suggestions to use RG8 on 23 cms, unfortunatly far too much miss information concerning VHF and above disseminated at entry level these days.



Why don't you mention the question that that was an answer to?
And include the whole answer.

Of course you wouldn't want to tell the whole story would you, it would spoil your comment. :rotfl: :rotfl:

:tease:

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Take heart, if the RSGB get their latest new entry level proposal through


As its not an RSGB proposal I wont worry too much.

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Essex Ham have interviewed RSGB VHF Manager John Regnault G4SWX about his proposal for a Beginners Amateur Radio licence

Is he not really part of the RSGB then?, just moonlighting? :scratch:
Or is it that "RSGB VHF Manager", is just another of those bullshit "volunteer" titles they seem to hand out like smarties, that in reality carry no real weight?
If so, who within the RSGB does actually carry some weight?

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Being the RSGB VHF Manager does not mean his views are RSGB policy...if you had ever met John you would realise that hes not exactly the type to toe the line, hes far more likely to say exactly what he thinks.

:lol:

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If so, who within the RSGB does actually carry some weight?


Why dont you ask them ?


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