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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
2E0JGR
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Re: Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cann
G4YVM wrote: Sounds promising!! It most certainly is but a dark cloud is hanging over me at the moment, a visitation from Ofcom in regards to the potential A/VDSL interference which if found to be the case then it is a "tough luck as we won't do anything approach from Ofcom" as reliably informed on the phone before hand and for me this means the loss of the HF bands thanks to S9+10dB of white noise carrier with no notches.
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
G4HTZ
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I've been re learning after 40 years ...surprising that I can still recognise a lot of characters. This site recommends learning at 25 wpm with bigger gaps as it's the musical sound you recognise not the dots and dashs .....don't know if that's true ...I originally learnt at age 17 with a set of LPs which you varied the turntable speed to speed up the lessons https://lcwo.net
_________________ FT-710 mainly on 4m 5 ele Dual yagi for 4m ACOM 500s 160w on 4m QTH 90m asl
Also like refurbishing old AM kit
Johnson Viking 2 AM TX 110w carrier AR88
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
2E0JGR
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G4HTZ wrote: I've been re learning after 40 years ...surprised that I can still recognise a lot of characters. This site recommends learning at 25 wpm with bigger gaps as it's the musical sound you recognise not the dots and dashes .....don't know if that's true ...I originally learnt at age 17 with a set of LPs which you varied the turntable speed to speed up the lessons https://lcwo.netThank you, Steve, currently I am awaiting my visitation from Ofcom and then work from that point as that is at the moment the underlying issue.
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
G4YVM
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The beauty of cw is that even if ofcom throw you to the wolves, a length of wire and a pocket sized rig together with a key and a paper pad amd youre off! Portable ops with cw arr a most enjoyable way of working while you look for a new house!
D
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Will a dilithium xtal set send the signals faster or.just warp my key?
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:55 am |
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
G4NVB
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G4HTZ wrote: ..I originally learnt at age 17 with a set of LPs which you varied the turntable speed to speed up the lessons I've still got my G3HSC Margaret Mills LP's
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:00 am |
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
G4YVM
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Re: Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cann
G4HTZ wrote: I've been re learning after 40 years ...surprising that I can still recognise a lot of characters. This site recommends learning at 25 wpm with bigger gaps as it's the musical sound you recognise not the dots and dashs .....don't know if that's true ...I originally learnt at age 17 with a set of LPs which you varied the turntable speed to speed up the lessons https://lcwo.netInteresting...so you learnt at various pitches too!! If you listened backwards did it predict paul macartneys death??? D
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Will a dilithium xtal set send the signals faster or.just warp my key?
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:23 am |
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
G4HTZ
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G4NVB wrote: G4HTZ wrote: ..I originally learnt at age 17 with a set of LPs which you varied the turntable speed to speed up the lessons I've still got my G3HSC Margaret Mills LP's Hi David Yes that's the ones ....couldn't remember the callsign Cheers Steve
_________________ FT-710 mainly on 4m 5 ele Dual yagi for 4m ACOM 500s 160w on 4m QTH 90m asl
Also like refurbishing old AM kit
Johnson Viking 2 AM TX 110w carrier AR88
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:23 am |
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
G4HTZ
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G4YVM wrote: G4HTZ wrote: I've been re learning after 40 years ...surprising that I can still recognise a lot of characters. This site recommends learning at 25 wpm with bigger gaps as it's the musical sound you recognise not the dots and dashs .....don't know if that's true ...I originally learnt at age 17 with a set of LPs which you varied the turntable speed to speed up the lessons https://lcwo.netInteresting...so you learnt at various pitches too!! If you listened backwards did it predict paul macartneys death??? Quite possibly .....never tried backwards ....had enough problem learning morse the correct way round D
_________________ FT-710 mainly on 4m 5 ele Dual yagi for 4m ACOM 500s 160w on 4m QTH 90m asl
Also like refurbishing old AM kit
Johnson Viking 2 AM TX 110w carrier AR88
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:26 am |
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
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Oh the G3HSC 'Morse in a month' LP set. Yeah right. Took me TWELVE months.
I agree with previous comments that 20wpm with big spaces is too high. 15wpm with huge spaces is a nice balance between speed & rhythm. At 12wpm it is difficult (for me, at any rate) to get the rhythm of each letter.
When you get to the point where you can have a QSO and not have to write it all down it transforms the enjoyment of CW. Just making notes as you would on phone.
I find that if I come across someone sending at 12wpm I actually do have to go back to writing it down. Its a though there is a 'window of time' in my tired old brain and unless I get the whole WORD (even reading a letter at a time) in that window then I forget what has gone before.
Also I find that if I work someone at slow speeds I have to abandon the paddle and go back to the hand key, or I make a real dogs breakfast of it. Maybe its just me.
The concept of 'reading behind' never worked for me at all. I do the mental conversion as the letters are being received.
In a pre-digital age I learned the alphabet 4 characters at a time. Once I had the alphabet memorised I'd sit there on the bus going to/from work mentally converting the text in all the adverts into morse.
I never got my arm to work a hand key much faster than 16wpm, and about 22wpm on a paddle, even though I can receive a lot faster these days. Quite useful when some ass-hat comes back to my 20wpm CQ at lord-knows what speed, on their keyboard. My usual response is to revert to a hand key, so their software cant read me properly. Does that make me a bad person? Do I care :-)
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Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:39 pm |
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
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G3ZPF wrote: I never got my arm to work a hand key much faster than 16wpm, and about 22wpm on a paddle, even though I can receive a lot faster these days. Quite useful when some ass-hat comes back to my 20wpm CQ at lord-knows what speed, on their keyboard. My usual response is to revert to a hand key, so their software cant read me properly. Does that make me a bad person? Do I care :-) No, not a bad person at all, they are the ones being bad. I do the same, if they are using a bug and come back to me at a faster speed than I'm sending, then I go back at their speed +5, I think that's only fair, the trouble is some don't seemed to like it because they pi$$ off The trouble is with my hand key sending is it can still be read with a computer, one of the locals I work quite often reads my hand key sending on his computer, he doesn't need the computer being an FOC member, it's just that it is connected anyway.
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
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Remember the story of Robert the Bruce, and the spider. "If at first you don't succeed, then try, try, and try again"
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Four weeks with around 15 minutes a day and I still cannot!
G3ZPF
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If at first you don't succeed......skydiving is not a hobby for you :-)
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