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GW6RRL
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ID this UHF
Brought this UHF yagi home from the club to refurb. Its history is unknown, was donated by a SK estate years ago. Wonder if anyone recognises it as a manufactured article? Its 18 element, about 12 feet assembled. The driven element is a 300 ohm loop, and in the grey box appears to be a 4:1 arrangement to present 75 ohms at a N type. The lead attatched I'm not sure about, too long to be an impedence transformer I'm thinking, so maybe just a N to PL259 bodge lead.
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Re: ID this UHF
The feed-point impedance is probably closer to 200 Ohm, so the 4 to 1 BALUN would reduce that to 50 Ohm. It may be a home-brew copy of a Jaybeam?
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GW6RRL
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Thanks. Difficult to work out if its home brew, hybrid brew or commercial. The box is a bit bodge but the antenna is well made. I'm going to straighten it all out and clean it up. The box lid has 4 holes in it that may have held a badge, else I cant see what else they were for. I'm told its jolly well old.
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Re: ID this UHF
is it a balun in there? photo useful. insulated thru boom elements. Its prob an NBS design. Anyway just use it.
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GW6RRL
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Re: ID this UHF
I've assembled it in the garage, I reckon its well made home made. The contents of the box, and the overall size of the thing. Tried to get into the only uhf repeater listed in the area with it but no can do. The only uhf activity I know of is on the isle of wight, so I'll point it that way and leave it scanning. I'm thinking though its just too big to be useful at home.
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g4asr
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Re: ID this UHF
Well it wont be cut for the fm part of the band althought that wont matter so much. That type of antenna is usually used for cw/ssb working around 432.200MHz. The 3db beamwidth will be circa 25degrees.
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Re: ID this UHF
driven element looks a lot like an M2 Used to have a huge 2m M2 and its driven element end connector block look very similar this is modern http://www.m2inc.com/index.php?ax=amateur&pg=136
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GW6RRL
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Re: ID this UHF
It does look like it, even down to the way the elements are fixed into the bar. I've downloaded the spec sheet of the 432-12 will compare the dimensions as a guide thanks,
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Re: ID this UHF
It looks like an early version of the Vinecom Eagle range.
Ive got a 10 element 2m yagi that uses the same type of construction,those through boom element fixings are a pain as the lockwasher that holds the elements in looses tension over time and the elements slide out.
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Re: ID this UHF
g4rra wrote: It looks like an early version of the Vinecom Eagle range.
Ive got a 10 element 2m yagi that uses the same type of construction,those through boom element fixings are a pain as the lockwasher that holds the elements in looses tension over time and the elements slide out. Agreed, possibly an Eagle. Almost certainly optimised for the SSB section. Why not try looking for beacons on it? Cheers Tony
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GW6RRL
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It was mounted vertical though could be drilled for horizontal. I've tried it into the new Isle of Wight repeater, after setting it up in the clear and at a bit of height, but nothing amazing, no better than my white stick. At 12 feet long its a bit difficult to mess about with, but another time I'll try horizontal for SSB beacons as suggested.
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gw8asd
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G6RRL wrote: It was mounted vertical though could be drilled for horizontal. I've tried it into the new Isle of Wight repeater, after setting it up in the clear and at a bit of height, but nothing amazing, no better than my white stick. At 12 feet long its a bit difficult to mess about with, but another time I'll try horizontal for SSB beacons as suggested. What does it look like on an analyser? I'm amazed it's drilled for vertical polarisation mounting. I just can't imagine why that would be. The mounting pole would need to be an insulated material as well! Perhaps it's one of a pair of bayed, horizontally polarised, antennas? Then it would have a horizontal, insulated, crossmember between two of them. Cheers Tony
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Re: ID this UHF
gw8asd wrote: What does it look like on an analyser?
Tony something I really ought to invest in, instead of all these radios
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Re: ID this UHF
G6RRL wrote: gw8asd wrote: What does it look like on an analyser?
Tony something I really ought to invest in, instead of all these radios You could do a sweep, with an SWR meter in line, to get an idea of its resonant frequency. Do it out in the open and, if you point it vertically you don't need to have it far off the ground. Obviously, ensure whatever you are using to support it isn't affecting it. Do it quickly so as not to cause others grief. Cheers Tony
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GW6RRL
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Re: ID this UHF
Nothing at home that will measure UHF, apart from the indication built in the 857 or ts2000. I'll see what I can come up with from work, may have some slugs for the bird. TBH, I think this is one antenna I'll be putting back where I found it!
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